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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00   #21
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Why should nerf fone farmin because few silly players buy that spear 100k + 60e. People who buy it and people who sell it are happy.

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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08   #22
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2 simple reasons:

1) I like things being cheap in the game.
2) my guildie/alliances always have left-overs green weapons and they give it to, guess who, their guildies, because they farm a lot and can afford to give them away for free. If any farm area is nerf just no good for me :P

sorry.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:09 PM // 14:09   #23
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Umbral Grotto's been dead since about a month after EotN release. Once the VS farm is nerfed or the prices aren;t worth it any more all the people WILL in fact leave. If ANet can revive Slavers then great, if not they should leave things the way they are and let the prices fall.
if any thing they have gone up. atm any way
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12   #24
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please nerf this before the economy of voltaics become the same as the stygian reaver...voltaics have a green modeled after them...and are not easily attainable.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:23 PM // 14:23   #25
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/notsigned, just because you cant find a pug isnt a very good reason.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34   #26
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please nerf this before the economy of voltaics become the same as the stygian reaver...voltaics have a green modeled after them...and are not easily attainable.
how much were Vspears before the farm was known, and how much are they now?

the drop rate sucks so bad it does not matter and they will only go down 5E at most
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35   #27
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/signed for making the "farm" more difficult, but for a different reason to the OP.

When Voltaic Spears come down in price to 50k each...20k each...10k each, and every player and his Grandmother has them on heroes you can just imagine what the crying about the drop in price will be like.

When a farm is found for a high-end weapon of course people will farm for it, but it will be such a shame if the price of the spears does plummit, since it'll be yet another high-end weapon which has lost it's "prestige".
i dont think this will happen before GW 2, the drop rate is soo low that even if you farm all day you may not get one, now things like ectos are much more vulnerable( as shown by perma sin fiasco) to this kind of thing because of the relatively high drop rate. but i do/sign to make it more difficult simply for the fact that this is an exploit and there are not supposed to be any exploits.

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Old Sep 01, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40   #28
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...Farming is ruining the game for a lot of players Anet...
Strange that the huge amount of players who are obviously in Umbral having their game ruined don't form a PUG together to do Slaver's. Or am I missing something?
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02   #29
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You trying to fight farmers, YOU DON'T WIN! Farmers will adapt, crying threads like this accomplish nothing, and the only people hurt in the end are casually players.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:03 PM // 15:03   #30
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We all knew perma shadow form was a bad idea. A.net did a poor job nerfing it to counteract the UW run (reducing damage, rather then reducing its duration), but we all knew there were other ways this could be exploited, via runs.
Lesson A.net has now learned:
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10   #31
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/notsigned, just because you cant find a pug isnt a very good reason.
QFT
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Get a better guild/alliance......or better equip your heroes.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12   #32
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I'd rather just do UW and hope for my chances there. Actually, got a r11 voltaic from end chest like 2 days ago. I wished it was before this whole voltaic farming craze came about though ><. But really, w/e floats ppl's boats I'm okay with. If you feel like doing a run for 6-15 mins over and over and over for the slim chance of a voltaic, gl then
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #33
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i heard it will get nerfed soon
how it will be nerfed
i'm bracing myself for it
and still

9/10 of all drops suck
Dungeons aren't even worth playing em
cuz your drops suck most of the time

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Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #34
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How anyone could possibly enjoy endgame pve in this game is beyond me. You'd either have to be extremely bored, entertained as easily as a toddler, or too cheap to buy a new, better game.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28   #35
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This isn't even remotely a 'go in, get one' farm like ectos were over the last few months. You need to farm what 100+ times to maybe see *one*?

It is possible to h/h the whole dungeon, so I'm not sure that "but I can't find a pug wah wah!" is good enough justification.

I've still seen people selling Vspears for 100+First born, so it's not like the price is falling to under 100 or something.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12   #36
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Why people just like to complain? If it is nerfed, then other party will complain. Any developer cannot satisfy all their players. Learn to live with it, if not, just quit the game. Tired of QQing thread about nerf this and that, buff this and that.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19   #37
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/agree with Vehemence. Stop crying. This is hardly an exploit... since when has a wall stopped a meteor shower anyway? Also; all these people who think it's the next economy crash, stop being scaremongers, you're just people who think that your precious spears are going to drop in price. And with a calculated drop rate of around 0.0025% I dont see why you're worried. So..... your precious spear may drop by a few ectos, but, tbh if you have a spear I doubt a few ectos means anything to you.

It's a fun, easy run that allows everyone in the game to have a chance (if only a slight chance) to get a nice skinned spear.

Imo opinion it's a good thing.

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Old Sep 01, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23   #38
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f0.o
are you serious? ive seen a lot of ppl having good times doing this.. my guild/alliance teamed up whole weekend in this farm, i joined some runs too....

ZOMG people is having fun... YEA this deserves a nerf /sarcasm xD

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Old Sep 01, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #39
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
We all knew perma shadow form was a bad idea. A.net did a poor job nerfing it to counteract the UW run (reducing damage, rather then reducing its duration), but we all knew there were other ways this could be exploited, via runs.
Lesson A.net has now learned:
Listen to your community next time.
I think it's so funny how people still QQ about perma-Shadow when it's been in the game since NF release. It was always just as powerful, especially for running like the perma in the VS farm does, and my only regret is that I didn't know a lot of the higher end areas could be rocked by it. Still, I made plenty on ectos before the buff and after the nerf and after the partial revert. It's just so interesting that 95% of people wouldn't take a SF Sin farming with them because they had no clue that it was the most ignored and most powerful farming build in the game. Oh well. Just another sign of the community being so locked into its temporary tendencies and so resistant to change that it repels some of the best bars in the game.

At any rate, /notsigned. It makes my ears bleed (or eyes, whatever) every time someone complains about "This run is overpowered, this is ruining GW, this is not fair to casual players/vets/Ursans/dogs/America/whatever." Keep in mind that minimal new content will be added to GW1 in the next couple of years waiting for GW2. Finding new ways to use and abuse what we have now is where the adventure and excitement is still at in GW.

And that from someone who hasn't done one VS run.
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Old Sep 01, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21   #40
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So basically you want the farm to be nerfed so you can pug slaver's.

Play with guildies etc etc because farming is also making the game more fun for a lot of players.
Farming hurts more things than Slaver's pugging. Farming an extremely high-end item that easily kills the distribution of wealth in the game.
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